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My monthly HP rambles. (Contains HBP discussion, FYI)

Yes, kids! It's time for Yet Another Horcrux Theory (YAHT).


Now, we've all heard them. Harry's a horcrux. His scar is a horcrux. His eyes (the colour of Aveda Kedavra... a coincidence? I think NOT!) are the horcrux.

Well, here's my crazy theory: Voldemort's wand is the horcrux.

See, it all makes sense. That Halloween night at Godric's Hollow, with both Lily's and James's deaths swirling around, Voldie goes in for the final kill (baby!Harry). He raises his wand, magic at the ready... but the magic is pushed back and Voldemort destroyed.

The wand was the only thing between Voldemort and Harry.

So far, JKR hasn't made any indication if a horcrux can be anything other than an inanimate object, but what we've seen (the diary, Gaunt's ring) would make it seem as though the thing must be inanimate. Indeed, Dumbledore theorized that Voldemort was questing to use Hogwarts founder objects, not Hogwarts' students. (That might have been to spare poor Harry the angst, however).

We've seen only inanimate objects as horcruxes (the diary, Gaunt's ring) and it would make sense to think that the thing must be inanimate. (It being risky to turn a living object into a horcrux, as per Dumbledore). So, yeah.

What do you think?
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Date: 2006-01-10 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamabee-buzz.livejournal.com
hmm...well, I think the wand idea has more merit than a lot of theories I've heard so far (a friend of mine is absolutely positive that Nagini is a horcrux). Whether or not it'll turn out to be the case I don't know...but really, is anyone else with me in thinking Voldemort was kind of stupid in choosing his horcrux objects so far? I mean, wouldn't they be a whole lot less likely to be discovered and destroyed if he chose, say, a bunch of random objects belonging to random people around the world? Seriously. Would an evil mastermind really be so stupid (or self important) to make his downfall so easy to figure out? I don't think so!

*ahem*
Okay, I'm done now.

Date: 2006-01-10 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] souliesoul.livejournal.com
JKR might not have, but the only authoritative figure we have talking about horcruxes and the ones Voldemort might have in the actual book is Dumbledore and he thinks that it's possible Nagini, the snake, might be one. Says it's risky to be turning someting alive into one, but he doesn't say or suggest that it's impossible.
Interesting to think it might be the wand though.

Date: 2006-01-10 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
I think it's been pretty firmly established that Voldemort, while evil, is no mastermind.

"Give my mortal enemy his wand so I have one final chance to exact my revenge!"
"Um, boss, we've already got him tied up and helpless."
"Silence! He has no chance of escaping ME! Give him back his one hope at escape!"

"I know! I'll have a child, who has never indicated any real animosity toward mudbloods or muggles outside of some juvenile whining, and have him construct an elaborate plot to get my minions into Hogwarts! None of the dozens of crafty adults at my service could do better!"

And so on.

Date: 2006-01-10 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
he said that about Nagini? Huh. Shows what I know. *is a bad fangirl*

Still, I like my wand theory. I think i'm on crack, but it's fun to theorize.

Date: 2006-01-10 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoyouinvent.livejournal.com
i read a fic once where voldemort's final horcrux was a sales slip from take out curry dated 1978.
personally, i think that is much more brilliant, but not so likely in jkr's world. the nagini theory seems pretty common though.
but i wonder, voldemort ak's harry and looses his corporeal form, right? so where did his wand go? into the ether with him? it must have, i suppose, or else it would have clattered to the floor of the nursery and been found.

Date: 2006-01-10 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] souliesoul.livejournal.com
pg 473, UK

"I think I know what the sixth Horcrux is. I wonder what you will say when I confess that I have been curious for a while about the behaviour of the snake, Nagini?"
"The snake?" Harry said, startled. "You can use animals as Horcruxes?"
"Well, it is inadvisable to do so," said Dumbledore, "because to confide a part of your soul to something that can think and move for itself is obviously a very risky business. ...

Of course it's fun to theorise, and Dumbledore may be incorrect! :D

Date: 2006-01-10 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lishel_fracrium.livejournal.com
I completely agree with you,never thought of it that way before...but your right it makes total sense.

Date: 2006-01-10 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thymidinekinase.livejournal.com
Also, rather than just enchant my enemy's quill into a portkey, I'll have my minion operate at great peril for ten months to get my nemesis through a tournament only to kidnap him at the end! And then I'll kill a pureblood wizard who's never said a word against me! WOOT!

Date: 2006-01-10 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thymidinekinase.livejournal.com
Wormtail got it. He gave it back to Voldie at the end of GoF.

Date: 2006-01-10 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoyouinvent.livejournal.com
oh! i'd forgotten that part. you're right, he did. thanks!

Date: 2006-01-10 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
i read a fic once where voldemort's final horcrux was a sales slip from take out curry dated 1978.

*dies*

Another thing that made me believe it couldn't be Nagini: What happens to your chunk o' soul if that living creature dies? (Which leads back to the Horcrux!Harry theory).

Yeah, Peter was around and scammed Voldie's wand. What a rat.

Date: 2006-01-10 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
I like my little theory. I have a suspicion that JRK will have that final horcrux be something no one's thought of, just to mess us all up hardcore. She seems to like doing that.

Date: 2006-01-10 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
*snerk*
And let's not even go into that whole prophecy thing in book 5, shall we?

Although, a proper villian for a kid's book does need to be a bit of a stumblebum. After all, the protagonist is a teenage boy, and while teenage boys can be smart, they are still teenage boys. When was the last time a teenage boy took over the world? (Alexander the Great excepted)

Heh

Date: 2006-01-10 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealthyshade.livejournal.com
I like the random curry slip thinger...
However personally, its gonna be a copy of play witch that's under voldies mattress. Yep. Even evil wizards need lovin :p.
*looks at sentence and pokes out eyes repeatedly.*
Harry can't be a horcrux... He's too feckin dumb. You'd think something with TWO souls, the essence of two people, the mind of someone, would be a bit smarter tho.
That would explain the voldie dumb theory:
Give him his wand.
Boss, you split yourself into seven pieces. SEVEN. Let some one else do the thinking.

Yah.
What if the final horcruz was Dumbledores glasses? Drake swiped em before he left? Or it could be severus' hair... its greasy and evil enough.

Date: 2006-01-10 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
Dumbledore may be incorrect!

Blasphemy!!1!

Personally, I think Nagini is an Animagus. But that's just me.

Re: Heh

Date: 2006-01-10 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
*looks at sentence and pokes out eyes repeatedly.*
What was it that Xander said in that episode when Buffy and Spike start smooching under a spell? "Can I be blind too?"

Boss, you split yourself into seven pieces. SEVEN. Let some one else do the thinking.

But is it seven or eight? Are there seven Horcruxes, with the eighth piece in Voldie's head, or are there six + Voldie? I have no idea. But now I'm rambling.

Now I need to find that curry!Horcrux story...

Date: 2006-01-10 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cissasghost.livejournal.com
I had a theory like that, somewhat before JKR ever put forth the idea of horcruxes. So, I think it's quite probable - or at least that it makes a great deal of sense. I'm not sure I'd bet large sums on book 7 actually going that way, but it would work if it did.

-Sonya

Date: 2006-01-10 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thymidinekinase.livejournal.com

Still, I like my wand theory. I think i'm on crack, but it's fun to theorize.


I like the wand theory as well as a like the Harry-Horcrux theory (though stealthyshade has a point that Harry'd presumably be a bit smarter with a chunk of Voldie in him) and better than I like the scar-Horcrux theory. You do seem to be on the giddy side this evening. Cheers!

Date: 2006-01-10 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoyouinvent.livejournal.com
if i could find the link to that story, i would totally share, but it has escaped me.
i personally think it's a great idea, but if i went all criminally insane and megolomanical, i don't think i'd name my followers death eaters, either. i mean, c'mon. ;-)

Date: 2006-01-10 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lishel_fracrium.livejournal.com
yep she like doing that. oh and I love your icon by the way. *pets poor harry*

Re: Heh

Date: 2006-01-10 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealthyshade.livejournal.com
I want it if you find it. Lol.
I don't know, thats what I was wondering. In the fic you recced Death to the Bone, it said harry had gotten 6 Horcruxes... and wasn't the point of the mysticality that there were 7 parts to a soul, not eight. So therefore, fuck the horcrux, pop a cap in voldie and he's dead.
*looks up* wow I'm geeky :p.
But yeah, I'm pretty sure that its just 6 horcruxes and voldie.
What did they have? the ring, the medalion... I'm calling they are:
A spellbook: Rowena Ravenclaw
A plant: Helga Hufflepuff
The sword?: Godric Gryffindor
The Locket: Was slytherins I think.
Nagini
The ring.
Voldies pasty white arse
Or Not

Date: 2006-01-10 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamabee-buzz.livejournal.com
Okay, fine, you win. :P

I swear, if I'm ever evil...I'm going to be smart about it!

Date: 2006-01-10 03:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catherinecookmn.livejournal.com
The thing is that psychopaths, while they may be clever, have troubles dealing with objective reality. Voldemort reads a lot like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho -- or like Ted Bundy in real life -- A bright, superficially charming being with no moral center whatsoever.

That's why they turn to crime: It's not that they're superior beings all around, it's that even the bright ones always want to cut moral corners all the time; they simply can't function under normal rules, so they don't bother to try.

Date: 2006-01-10 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyani-no-kokoro.livejournal.com
I agree that using the wand as a horcrux makes a lot of sense. After all, wouldn't it make sense to keep something that important somewhere you can keep an eye on it? And even if Voldemort is defeated, there's no guarantee his wand will be destroyed as well. It only takes one person loyal to him to getting to the wand before someone else does (as we've seen).

Speaking of Evil masterminds

Date: 2006-01-10 03:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here is the best list of things to NOT do when your an evil overlord. I have learned much from it

http://www.planetadnd.com/humor/misc_humor/evil_overlord.php
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