Weird SGA and odd HP thoughts
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mhalachaiTwo crack!theories.
Harry Potter: So, you know how JK Rowling did that interview recently in which she was all like "I decided last week that I may kill off some characters"? And Fandom collectively decided that she decided at the last minute to kill Harry?
Yeah, so I've been thinking about this. As JKR said, she wrote the last chapter years ago and has only made tiny changes. In my mind, this means that the decision to kill Harry (or not) was made several years ago. The sudden death of Harry would facilitate a total rewrite.
Plus, if she kills off Harry, she's going to destroy a generation of children. Therapists of the world will be in the money for decades to come.
My bet: Harry doesn't die, or at least is alive at the end of the 7th book. Voldemort is dead, and wackiness ensues.
As for Stargate Atlantis: A theory about Sheppard's past (warning: Intensely cliched sci-fi conventions).
Based on nothing whatsoever, except that it's sci-fi and we get shit like "Luke, I am your father" *hand slice* I was wondering if part of the reason we know nothing about Sheppard's past is because they're going to pull a parent thing on us. What if the reason he has no family at home, and he can use the Ancient technology better than anyone else is if he's got a parent who's an Ancient.
I know, it's like the worstest cliche EVER but we know from SG-1 season 9 that there were some unascended (de-ascended) Ancients on Earth.
It's a horrible idea, right? I love it so much, I might have to write the fic. K NO.
Harry Potter: So, you know how JK Rowling did that interview recently in which she was all like "I decided last week that I may kill off some characters"? And Fandom collectively decided that she decided at the last minute to kill Harry?
Yeah, so I've been thinking about this. As JKR said, she wrote the last chapter years ago and has only made tiny changes. In my mind, this means that the decision to kill Harry (or not) was made several years ago. The sudden death of Harry would facilitate a total rewrite.
Plus, if she kills off Harry, she's going to destroy a generation of children. Therapists of the world will be in the money for decades to come.
My bet: Harry doesn't die, or at least is alive at the end of the 7th book. Voldemort is dead, and wackiness ensues.
As for Stargate Atlantis: A theory about Sheppard's past (warning: Intensely cliched sci-fi conventions).
Based on nothing whatsoever, except that it's sci-fi and we get shit like "Luke, I am your father" *hand slice* I was wondering if part of the reason we know nothing about Sheppard's past is because they're going to pull a parent thing on us. What if the reason he has no family at home, and he can use the Ancient technology better than anyone else is if he's got a parent who's an Ancient.
I know, it's like the worstest cliche EVER but we know from SG-1 season 9 that there were some unascended (de-ascended) Ancients on Earth.
It's a horrible idea, right? I love it so much, I might have to write the fic. K NO.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:23 pm (UTC)I'm loving the parent idea though. Oh! If there's no more ficage of the sga/hp crossover you did, think you can manage a drabble of rodney finding out he's a wizard? Well, when you calm down all your other bunnies. ^^
End of HP.
Date: 2006-07-09 09:30 pm (UTC)As for HArry. I think she will write it in such a way that no-one will EVER know. as in There wioll be a titanic battle (HP being the Last Horcrux.) Harry "dies" (not by AK) allowing Voldie to be killed. but gets brought back to life with Resuss ewquipment :P. wacky i know but hey.
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Date: 2006-07-09 09:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-09 09:42 pm (UTC)I think it would be awfully funny (and annoying) if Book Seven just ends at a cliffhanger, and we never know whether Harry and/or Voldemort survive(s).
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:18 pm (UTC)Oh man. I'm never going to get done with my plot bunnies. They're all over the place and getting so LONG.
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:24 pm (UTC)And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Harry dies a la Buffy at the end of seaon one of BtVS. He dies to fulfil that prophecy and then comes back and we're all happy. Well, sort of happy.
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:26 pm (UTC)I can't see her killing Harry, really. It's a kid's book, and good has to win. Killing Harry isn't winning.
However, since I'm not writing a kid's book in Inevitable, I'm not bound by the worry of destorying a generation of children. (Only my 300 readers :P)
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-09 10:39 pm (UTC)Er, they show the series.
Oh.
Drat. :P
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Date: 2006-07-09 10:42 pm (UTC)At which point Voldemort will be killed by Neville.
I want this because
a.) Harry's vaguely prat-like, and needs to not save the day, both for his prat-like-ness but also because he needs this off his shoulders if he's ever to have an even semi-functional life. He doesn't need to win, he needs to have it brought to his attention that he's not the only one capable of fighting.
b.) Neville! Much love for Neville, who *does* need to win, at least once, spectularly.
c.) It would mean Voldemort was wrong, in his interpretation of the prophecy - along with Dumbledore and everyone else, but mostly Voldemort. It'd make everything since he tried to kill Harry as a baby not this big epic meant-to-be battle, but one giant fuck-up, the consequence not of prophecies and the alignment of the stars and all that good garbage, but of personal choice, the consequences of how things were interpreted and how the individuals involved chose to act. And randomness and choice kick the ass of predestination and fate for meaningfulness any day, IMO.
.. . though really, come down to it, I'd be happy no matter who killed Voldemort as long as it wasn't Harry. Or Hermione, really, wouldn't work for her either unless we put her through some much more significant trauma between now and then. But Snape or Draco or Ron or Tonks or Narcissa (oh god I'd *die* if Narcissa killed him - in a good way) would work for me. Just any not-the-hero type who steps up out of the background when it appears all hope is lost, and says, y'know what, fuck this shit, *bang*
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Date: 2006-07-09 11:11 pm (UTC)'Neville has his dad's wand'
'Neville was in the DA and has some vague kickassing ability.'
'...Neville's parents were... tortured to--
'AH HA! Neville's wand was crap (or like, bent or something) because of the torture thing, the reason he's always been unable to do anything right is because of the wand, when he gets his own wand he will become the MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE - we will find out the prophesy was about HIM and suddenly Harry is NOT SO COOL!'
(not that I want un-cool Harry, just coz I think it would be ironic.)
>_> yeah.
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Date: 2006-07-10 12:34 am (UTC)You can't kill off Harry in Inevitable! I like Inevitable Harry way better than Canon Harry. And just think about how guilty and responsible Anita would feel if she let Harry get killed!
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Date: 2006-07-10 12:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 01:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 01:33 am (UTC)As for Sheppard...dude, ANYthing is possible in sci-fi. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of those time-travelling Ancient people and is really his own ancestor or something wacked out like that.
don't mind me, it's the meds talking...stupid sinus infections.
HOWEVER!! If you kill Harry in Inevitable...I will cry, and spam you with comments of "why Mhal? why!?!" on all sites...=P Be warned!! hahahaha
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:41 am (UTC)[Thalia is attacked by plotbunnies!!! Thalia's cat tears away the plotbunnies, for once distracted from her keyboard, and feasts. Thalia drags herself to her suddenly available keyboard to write.
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:44 am (UTC)I never said I was killing off Harry, or that I wasn't. I'd just have less qualms about it. And even if he dies, Anita can bring him back as zombie!Harry.
Oh man, what a really bad idea. I hope Harry lives.
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 01:45 am (UTC)Or even better, John could be adopted :D
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:52 am (UTC)Could be his Mom.
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:53 am (UTC)Oh god. Only if Rodney gets to sing the "I'm my own grampaw" song from the muppets.
Or maybe Sheppard was kinda like Superman, and his Ancient parents stuck him in a capsule and sent him to earth in a 10,000-year space trip and he crash landed in a field... okay, probably not, but you're right. Anything's possible.
Who said anything about killing Harry? Oh yeah, me. Um, all I can say is don't worry, you'll like how I end the story :)
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:54 am (UTC)And yes, that's a very good incentive.
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:56 am (UTC)Maybe she's supposed to eventually replace 'Marmie Noir'?
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Date: 2006-07-10 01:57 am (UTC)Man, I'm so doomed to write this.
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:02 am (UTC)Mary SueAnita's going to do the same thing.Everybody sing!
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 02:07 am (UTC)Maybe that's what happened to her & becoming 'vampire' was the only way to sustain her 'rising'.
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:13 am (UTC)You inspired me to write a little post about my theory on Mommy Dearest:
http://mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com/195832.html
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:57 am (UTC)Here's the list of those who will live, for certain sure:
Harry, Ron (all the Weasleys, in fact), Hermione, Neville, Remus, McGonagall, Dobby, Flitwick, Sprout, Hagrid -- and Snape and Draco.
Anyone whose name is not on that list is fair game. That includes Tonks (sorry, Remus) and Luna (sorry, Neville).
A reminder: JKR often uses slightly different definitions of "important" than the ones used by her fandom. Remember the months leading up to Book Four's publication, and how she warned us over and over again that there was going to be a Big Death? Turned out to be Cedric Diggory. It affected Harry, but not the fans. So don't be surprised if it's Tonks and/or Luna that gets the axe.
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Date: 2006-07-10 03:22 am (UTC)(I know, I know...multiple use of exclamation marks, sure sign of a deranged mind... I laugh in the face of such superstition!!!!!)
:P
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:18 am (UTC)But Siriusly, the HP fandom is one that really needs falling rocks in book 7. THink we can start a letter writing campaign to get JKR to put some in?
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:25 am (UTC)Because Neville is love.
And yeah, Harry needs to not be The One for a change.
PS: Having Snape save the day would be too perfect for words.
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:27 am (UTC)All the Weasleys, eh? There goes my Percy redemption in death idea. And also the McGonagall is teh evil and must die idea.
But really, at heart this is a kid's series. Killing off the entire cast is not a way to endear yourself to the parents and kids who buy these things.
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Date: 2006-07-10 07:20 am (UTC)-- Rosy the Cat
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 02:40 pm (UTC)RE: HP being a kid's series -- Oh, exactly. Can you just imagine an eight-year-old kid reading Book One and getting into it when Nasty Older Brother casually walks by and says "Hey, cool books. Too bad Harry dies at the end"? Nope, me neither.
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Date: 2006-07-11 02:44 am (UTC)...So, are you going to work those ideas into Inevitable?
-- Rosy the Cat
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Date: 2006-07-11 04:10 am (UTC)Lillith? Awesome!
And *g* there may be noogies.. or wet willies... but no death in store if you were to write such a fic...
:)
Jaydeyn
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Date: 2006-07-12 03:16 am (UTC)Oh, thanks so much for that. My screwed-up mind has latched onto the scifi cliche bit and the no family bit and combined them with Sheppard's unfortunate habit of sharing his private bits with strange Ancient ladies and now it wants me to write a Sheppard as "Our Rob or Ross" (Ouroboros) fic. (For those of us unfamiliar with the British scifi show "Red Dwarf", this means that a primary character has no apparent parents because he fathered himself due to a temporal incident.) The SGA writers probably won't do this, but it would certainly be interesting.
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Date: 2006-07-14 07:46 am (UTC)But I think a lot of peeps would be kinda pissed off at that. JK is prolly gonna give Nev Bella or smthg. Or maybe even Snape or Draco? He'll go postal on whoever pissed him off...
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Date: 2006-07-14 07:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-14 08:04 am (UTC)Harry Potter Lives
Date: 2006-07-17 12:52 pm (UTC)SGA Theory
Date: 2006-07-21 02:50 pm (UTC)I'm not convinced that the producers are going to play the John is an ancient or a child of an ancient card, but you're right that they've left that open as a possibility. I'm sure that there will be some kind of parent story in the future, and get the sense that they deliberately left his background blank so they could wait to decide which direction they wanted to go in.
Love to see you write this fic, btw :-)