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Ooh look, shiny cracked-meta! For my new crazy fandom Supernatural!

In In My Time Of Dying, John Winchester made a deal with the demon, Dean's life for the Colt and John Winchester himself. Then Daddy dies, and everyone's real sad, then the boys cremate the body and get all wrecked cry cry.

Yeah, okay, so John's dead. Right? Wrong (imo anyway). Come on. The demon just gets John dead? What kind of a deal is that? What better way to make life hell for the good guys (pun intended) than to turn the main man into the enemy? Like Emperor Palatine using Darth Vader to get to Luke? [/obligatory Star Wars reference]

And come on. We didn't see John die. We saw a body. Doesn’t even have to be his body. As far as we know, that body was never alive. He can reappear in corporeal form or just delicious ghostly form.

Yes, I'm clinging to the faintest of hopes because I'm a hopeless JW fangirl. But still, the idea that John will be used as some kind of complication in the boys' lives would be excellent in the hands of these writers, because of the amazing emotional impact.

PS I think Sam's secret is that he's like some kind of miracle baby, that the demons went after the kids because they're special in that good sort of way, and not that the demons wanted them for bad things and that's why John told Dean that Sam would be okay.

ETA: Ha! I am so totally vindicated by this April/06 interview with Jeffery Morgan on zapit: Quote from the article:

"But it's 'Supernatural,' so they might kill me, and I might not be dead."

K, done now.

Date: 2006-10-13 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] irish-dragon.livejournal.com
oooooo....

You've been converted....heehee

Date: 2006-10-13 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
Total conversion. I love this show.

Date: 2006-10-13 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tthjinni.livejournal.com
I'm sort of hoping that JW is over and done with, personally (and I really think he is). I hated him up to the point he died. I couldn't stand him until he made that sacrifice for Dean. Yeah, having him as an evil in a future ep would be a horrible mind!fuck for the boys, sure... I just hope it doesn't happen. They're both so not dealing with things as it is, anyway.

So - did you watch the episode tonight? *grin*

Date: 2006-10-13 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
Jeffery Morgan is just so sexy, tho. I agree that his character was an obsessed bastard who I wanted to hit on several occasions.

I haven't watched tonight's show, not yet. I don't have cable and must depend upon the kindness of strangers [/eyelash bat]

Date: 2006-10-13 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow-in-eden.livejournal.com
*blink*

Your words go 'woosh' over my head.

And yes, I am blissful in my ignorance. *smirk*

Date: 2006-10-13 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tthjinni.livejournal.com
Okay, that interview with JDM was *hilarious*. I was giggling, even. Him talking about how it was nicer to get to look at "Katie Heigl" than at Jensen and Jared... and how there's no way that age-wise he could be Jensen's dad...but *mentally*

*giggles some more*

We'll see if he's back at all.

Just... the way e2 started, I have to remain skeptical, ya know?

I wish he hadn't been killed off of at least ONE of the shows, though. I loved him as Denny on Grey's, too. *pouts*

Date: 2006-10-13 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
That interview was great. I lost it when he said that while he's only 12 years older than JA, he's got 25 years more in the brains department :D

I know what you mean about the skepticism. Let's just say I won't be terribly surprised if JW shows up again.

Date: 2006-10-13 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deepfishy.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] researchgrrrl has a very interesting analysis of the symbol John used to conjure the demon here (http://researchgrrrl.livejournal.com/67994.html), and--well, I won't be entirely convinced until he turns up again, but she makes a pretty good case for Papa Winchester not being as permanently dead as it appears.

Date: 2006-10-13 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhalachaiswords.livejournal.com
Ohh, thanks for that link. I love stuff like that.

I won't cry a tear if JW never reappears, but I won't be all shocked and awed if he's suddenly back. (I need me a JW icon)

Date: 2006-10-13 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaydeyn-sitari.livejournal.com

Hee! I spent a lot of last night cursing at my stupid computer for dying every single time I tried to link to her meta articles for Mhal. Seriously, I tried like 4 times before giving up on this thing *thwacks computer* so thanks for that. :)

:)
Jaydeyn

Date: 2006-10-14 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penyn-1600.livejournal.com
I think John is dead, but I don't think he's gone. I read somewhere that Dean's comment about going into hell and killing every last demon if he had to might be a clue as far as that goes. So, we'll see I guess.

Date: 2006-10-14 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beneficia.livejournal.com
Yeah, they were very careful to leave out what the demon asked John for in exchange for Dean's life. If it was simply for his death, the PTB would have shown that explicitly.

And you've finished the first season already? Or have you been totally spoiled? Oh well.

And now that you know about the s1 finale, I can rec fic for you:)

For a John/Zoe SPN/Firefly crossover, go here (http://vaznetti.livejournal.com/353565.html)

How 'In My Time of Dying' could have gone: here (http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1132238.html)

A nice John-centric short (http://trollprincess.livejournal.com/1063761.html)

And last, but certainly not least, possibly my favorite SPN fic: One Shot (http://trolllogicfics.livejournal.com/11810.html)

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