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mhalachaiConnections, at the Roadhouse
So. In Supernatural 2x10, Hunters, Gordon Walker, the hunter who previously encountered the Winchesters in Bloodlust, decides to go off that Sammy Winchester boy. Dangerous kid, right?
But this isn't an episode summary. My interested was peaked when, in response to Dean's demand about how Gordon learned about Sam's little secret and decided to go all Rambo on their asses.
Gordon: Look, you've got your Roadhouse connections, I got mine. It's how I found Sammy in the first place.
But who at the Roadhouse? Throughout the episode, Ellen seemed very supportive of Sam and Dean, and by extension so did Ash. I wondered for a while if Ellen or Ash had given up Sam, but then something occurred to me.
Ellen mentioned that Jo had bailed.
This all brought me back to something I read on the SPN website back in the day. From the Hunter's Blog section, from Jo:
Big Trouble
August 22, 2001
As I write this, I am, without a doubt, facing more trouble than ever before. And I really wish I could say it was a supernatural threat... but no such luck. For a while now, Gordon has been teasing me about the fact that I'm a hunter who's not allowed to hunt. He was getting a lot of laughs at my expense, which annoyed the hell out of me... but it also made me realize just how right he was. And how pathetic that makes me. So, last week, I walked right up to him and challenged him to take me along on a hunt. And, to my surprise, without missing a beat, he looked at me and said, "It's about time. I've been waiting for you to get up the nerve to ask me."
I told my Mom I was spending the night with a friend from school, which I should have realized was a lousy cover since I have never in my life gone to a sleepover with anyone. But she seemed to believe me. Gordon took me on a stakeout, at an abandoned factory just outside of town. He suspected a Rawhead was using the place as its lair, bringing back its prey to torment and kill. We were just running surveillance... and after about four hours, Gordon heard a noise... something off in the far corner. He headed over to investigate... the place was dark as hell, couldn't see a thing. I was hardly breathing, just trying to keep hidden and out of sight and listening for Gordon. When all of the sudden, I heard another noise - right beside me! I must have jumped ten feet, and then I did the only thing I could think of... I ran, full out... and smack into my mother. She'd caught on to my lie, tracked us down... and embarrassed this "hunter" more than I ever thought possible.
I've seen my Mom pretty upset... but nothing even compares with that night. I thought she was never gonna stop screaming at Gordon. I mean, I know she was freaked out, and I know I lied, but some of the stuff she was saying... like Gordon used me as bait to lure out the Rawhead... it's just so off base. But right now, there's no reasoning with her. I know, I tried.
Maybe I'll give it another try if she ever lets me out of my room...
Jo would have been about 16 at the time, and from reading that blog off the official site, Jo probably wouldn’t have seen Ellen's reasoning of distrusting Gordon. Incidentally, this incident would explain Ellen's violently negative reaction to Gordon, in that phone call with Sam in Bloodlust.
So, after learning that John Winchester was the reason her father was dead, Jo left the Roadhouse. She's no longer in the area, but she knew about Sam's origins (the nursery fire, the powerz). What's to say that Jo didn't spill the beans on Sammy's condition in a fit of angst?
I can't believe that Ellen or Ash were the source of Gordon's info at this point, mostly because I love them both so much. That may leaves Jo.
Who knows? But anyway, an idea.
ETA: Sam's location and Jo's absence from the Roadhouse at the time Sammy-boy headed to Indiana.
In comments, people have brought up a very good point -- Jo wasn't at the Roadhouse when Sam pulled the whole "I'm going to Indiana!" thing, and therefore couldn't have told Gordon about the location.
However: What I initially meant above was that Jo could have told Gordon about Sam and the other children, which meant that Gordon would give the demon's words about Sam greater credence.
I'll post an expanded version of the text from the show here:
GORDON
Yeah? Come on, Dean. I know. About Sam's visions. I know everything.
DEAN
Really? Because a demon told you?
(laughs)
Yeah, and it wasn't lying.
GORDON
Hey, Dean. I'm not some reckless yahoo, okay? I did my homework. Made damn sure it was true. Look, you've got your Roadhouse connections, I got mine. It's how I found Sammy in the first place.
The placement of that line is what led me to believe he wasn't talking about Sam's location in regards to the Roadhouse Connections. And Gordon is (from what we've seen) an accomplished hunter -- it's not outside the realm of possibility that he found Sam.
(Because if not, if someone at the Roadhouse actually did give up Sam's location, it would have to be Ellen or Ash and that would make me sad. I'll save the "Is Ellen Evil?" thoughts for another day.)
So. In Supernatural 2x10, Hunters, Gordon Walker, the hunter who previously encountered the Winchesters in Bloodlust, decides to go off that Sammy Winchester boy. Dangerous kid, right?
But this isn't an episode summary. My interested was peaked when, in response to Dean's demand about how Gordon learned about Sam's little secret and decided to go all Rambo on their asses.
Gordon: Look, you've got your Roadhouse connections, I got mine. It's how I found Sammy in the first place.
But who at the Roadhouse? Throughout the episode, Ellen seemed very supportive of Sam and Dean, and by extension so did Ash. I wondered for a while if Ellen or Ash had given up Sam, but then something occurred to me.
Ellen mentioned that Jo had bailed.
This all brought me back to something I read on the SPN website back in the day. From the Hunter's Blog section, from Jo:
Big Trouble
August 22, 2001
As I write this, I am, without a doubt, facing more trouble than ever before. And I really wish I could say it was a supernatural threat... but no such luck. For a while now, Gordon has been teasing me about the fact that I'm a hunter who's not allowed to hunt. He was getting a lot of laughs at my expense, which annoyed the hell out of me... but it also made me realize just how right he was. And how pathetic that makes me. So, last week, I walked right up to him and challenged him to take me along on a hunt. And, to my surprise, without missing a beat, he looked at me and said, "It's about time. I've been waiting for you to get up the nerve to ask me."
I told my Mom I was spending the night with a friend from school, which I should have realized was a lousy cover since I have never in my life gone to a sleepover with anyone. But she seemed to believe me. Gordon took me on a stakeout, at an abandoned factory just outside of town. He suspected a Rawhead was using the place as its lair, bringing back its prey to torment and kill. We were just running surveillance... and after about four hours, Gordon heard a noise... something off in the far corner. He headed over to investigate... the place was dark as hell, couldn't see a thing. I was hardly breathing, just trying to keep hidden and out of sight and listening for Gordon. When all of the sudden, I heard another noise - right beside me! I must have jumped ten feet, and then I did the only thing I could think of... I ran, full out... and smack into my mother. She'd caught on to my lie, tracked us down... and embarrassed this "hunter" more than I ever thought possible.
I've seen my Mom pretty upset... but nothing even compares with that night. I thought she was never gonna stop screaming at Gordon. I mean, I know she was freaked out, and I know I lied, but some of the stuff she was saying... like Gordon used me as bait to lure out the Rawhead... it's just so off base. But right now, there's no reasoning with her. I know, I tried.
Maybe I'll give it another try if she ever lets me out of my room...
Jo would have been about 16 at the time, and from reading that blog off the official site, Jo probably wouldn’t have seen Ellen's reasoning of distrusting Gordon. Incidentally, this incident would explain Ellen's violently negative reaction to Gordon, in that phone call with Sam in Bloodlust.
So, after learning that John Winchester was the reason her father was dead, Jo left the Roadhouse. She's no longer in the area, but she knew about Sam's origins (the nursery fire, the powerz). What's to say that Jo didn't spill the beans on Sammy's condition in a fit of angst?
I can't believe that Ellen or Ash were the source of Gordon's info at this point, mostly because I love them both so much. That may leaves Jo.
Who knows? But anyway, an idea.
ETA: Sam's location and Jo's absence from the Roadhouse at the time Sammy-boy headed to Indiana.
In comments, people have brought up a very good point -- Jo wasn't at the Roadhouse when Sam pulled the whole "I'm going to Indiana!" thing, and therefore couldn't have told Gordon about the location.
However: What I initially meant above was that Jo could have told Gordon about Sam and the other children, which meant that Gordon would give the demon's words about Sam greater credence.
I'll post an expanded version of the text from the show here:
GORDON
Yeah? Come on, Dean. I know. About Sam's visions. I know everything.
DEAN
Really? Because a demon told you?
(laughs)
Yeah, and it wasn't lying.
GORDON
Hey, Dean. I'm not some reckless yahoo, okay? I did my homework. Made damn sure it was true. Look, you've got your Roadhouse connections, I got mine. It's how I found Sammy in the first place.
The placement of that line is what led me to believe he wasn't talking about Sam's location in regards to the Roadhouse Connections. And Gordon is (from what we've seen) an accomplished hunter -- it's not outside the realm of possibility that he found Sam.
(Because if not, if someone at the Roadhouse actually did give up Sam's location, it would have to be Ellen or Ash and that would make me sad. I'll save the "Is Ellen Evil?" thoughts for another day.)
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Date: 2007-01-14 07:18 am (UTC)